There is a small memorial stained glass window in the University of Michigan Library for Professor Edward Lorraine Walter, who drowned in this tragedy. The Cromartyshire, a full rigged three-masted iron ship of 1.462 tons, sailed from Dunkirk for Philadelphia on June 8th, 1898, with a cargo of coal. [2] At the time, she was carrying 506 passengers and 220 crew, of whom 549 were lost, including Turkish wrestler Yusuf İsmail, the American instructor/sculptor Emil Wuertz, American painter De Scott Evans, an Armenian Orthodox priest, Rev. I started searching the newspapers from the East coast and unbelievably an article in the Philadelphia Inquirer dated July 7, 1898, page 6, shows that the journalist talked to a Charles Elkoory about the "Assyrians" on board. Unknown - Library of Congress (Public Domain) Instead the French Consulate issued statements defending the French officers and crewmen. I have a water colour by A. Ogden representing the collision of these two ships. The Right Rev. De La Casse, the only woman saved, as pointed out by Patricia Pinner above, attended the funeral of Father Kesseler in New York, and later wrote a beautiful and lengthy account of the tragedy which was published. Patricia Pinner, 32. Did they bring any of the bodies ashore for burial? [1] She was a 7,395 gross ton vessel, 494.4 feet (150.7 m) long and with a beam of 52.2 feet (15.9 m). julien comeau feb 21 2010, 13. shipping: + $3.00 shipping . Caitlin, 20. David Goncalves-Birch, 23. It was soon determined that the other vessel was the French liner La Bourgogne. He was taking his fiance home to meet his family. I found it in a garret, in the house of my grand-father, who was the captain of several sail ships of french merchant marine, in the years 1897-1905. })(); Such a sad story. Linda, 2. Jacques MALET, 38. Heading on a northeast course was the British Sailing ship, Cromartyshire, at reduced speed and sounding her Norwegian foghorn at regular interval.The La Bourgogne was no match for the steel hulled … Lebanon, which at that time was part of Syria and is today Lebanon. In February 1896 she collided with, and sank the steamer Ailsa, of the Atlas Steamship Company, off the US coast. The loss of the French liner La Bourgogne in 1898 was one of the most disgraceful of such disasters, the final death-toll being in no small measure due to the behaviour of a crew whose motto appears to have been “Women and Children Last”. Jennifer, 43. The loss of the liner La Bourgogne, 1898 The sinking of the Titanic in 1912 remains locked in the public imagination as the supreme tragedy of North Atlantic passenger travel, all the more so since elementary safety precautions could have saved many more lives, even if they could not save the ship. My mother's father(my grandfather-whom I never met since he died in 1958 and I was born in 1962) was 9 at the time of his father's death. Bourgogne–Franche-Comte, region of France created in 2016 by the union of the former regions of Bourgogne and Franche-Comte. Launched in 1885 the La Bourgogne was a French ocean liner that traveled between Le Havre, France, and New York City. Good luck for the rest of your research, It is interesting to note that the Halifax, Nova Scotia undertaker who was entrusted with the recovery and care of the victims of the Titanic tragedy was the same undertaker who accompanied the steamer Hiawatha on her mission in search of bodies of victims of the La Bourgogne disaster. It is mounted in black wooden frame. Terry Good, 16. My Grandfather said they never spoke her name again!Do any of the Halifax papers have accounts of the sinking or are there any artifacts in a museum there, by chance? google_ad_type = "text_image"; The ship was a development of the Richelieu class, but in contrast to her predecessor, she had more powerful artillery that was arranged according to a more reasonable scheme. He married a Syrian girl in Springfield Massachusetts, had two sons and passed away in 1905 due to complications of pneumonia. SS La Bourgogne was a French ocean liner. Science apparently had been unable to devise any means of averting these tragedies. As a child, she told me that one of the passangers that drowned, a Turkish man who was returning back to his native Turkey after retiring as a circus performer, drowned because he could not swim due to the weight of the gold he stached in his pockets. She was built in 1885 by Société Nouvelle des Forges et Chantiers de la Méditerranée, La Seyne-sur-Mer for the Compagnie Generale Transatlantique (French Line). // ]]> It was known for its speed — it could cross the Atlantic in just over seven days and averaged 17 knots — quite fast for its time. I suspect my great-great grandfather may have died in this sinking. TP, 41. I was pretty certain my great great uncle was on this ship but I wanted to find supporting evidence. There was accommodation for 390 first class passengers, 65 second class and 600 third class passengers. google_ad_format = "120x240_as"; On 4 July 1898 she was sunk in collision in dense fog with the British sailing ship Cromartyshire off Sable Island. Mr herself a {s. A. He also intended to visit his parents in Ireland. In 1886 she set a new record for the fastest Atlantic crossing by a postal steamer. My Great Uncle - the artist De Scott Evans - and his three daughters were drowned in the shipwreck. It's stern is under water, their people in the water and in lifeboats. I have been doing alot of research on this incident and his history. Surviving crew members required police protection upon their arrival in New York.[4]. American editorial comment at the time of the disaster decried the continuing peril of ships colliding in fog on the ocean. I have been studying this wreck for years. Mr. Brown/Herr Braun ?? Benedict ManovillSonz, 11. My Great-great-great grandmother, Alice Aldige nee Lepretre, died in this wreck along with one of her daughters and a granddaughter. One of my relatives died with his wife, two daughters and a maid. SS La Bourgogne Passenger Lists All Digitized Passenger Lists For the SS La Bourgogne Available at the GG Archives. The similarly sized steamers, La Champagne, La Bourgogne, La Bretagne, and La Gascogne, were built under a French government subsidy law that provided that the ships could be taken over in a time of war. My grandfather's sister went down on the Bourgogne along with a friend. The liner was operated by the Compagnie Generale Transatlantique and was part of the French Naval Reserve. He left a wife and 3 young children behind. La Bourgogne like many other passenger ships of the era, was constructed of an iron hull and wood superstructure, propelled by a single screw propeller. 210 US 95 George Deslions vs. La Compagnie Generale Transatlantique, Articles incorporating text from Wikipedia, Ships of the Compagnie Générale Transatlantique, Société Nouvelle des Forges et Chantiers de la Méditerranée, Compagnie Generale Transatlantique (French Line), http://openjurist.org/210/us/95/george-deslions-v-la-compagnie-generale-transatlantique, https://military.wikia.org/wiki/SS_La_Bourgogne?oldid=4542375, Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. Charles never returned to Syria for a bride. Craig Rosenthal, 27. Victor C. Ernst, 3. Lou, 15. The outcome of the disaster was considered a disgrace to the officers of the ship, her owners and the French merchant marine in general. He now thinks that if the French company had immediately sent out a vessel from Halifax upon receipt of the news, some of the unfortunates might have been rescued alive. Listing Includes Date Voyage Began, Steamship Line, Vessel, Passenger Class and Route. Switzerland lies to the east. Eddie, 28. Nobody has ever attempted to locate La Bourgogne... Are you interested ??? Hello Caitlin the 08. SS La Bourgogne Go to: SS La Bourgogne The ill fated La Bourgogne illustrated in this colorized photograph from 1895. Benjamin Langford, 19. Maureen Files, 6. It soon was apparent that there had been considerable foul play and that the crew of the French ship had breached all discipline and regulations by forcibly and brutally taking possession of available life-boats and rafts to the exclusion of most passengers. I have an antique picture of "La Bourgogne" while it was sinking. ( With help from relatives,she opened a shoe store which had a live goat in the window to attract children) Peter Barrett is mentioned in an old article as one of the few bodies(maybe 8 out of 500+) identified from the. Wystan, 35. Google+, © 2007-2020 oceantreasures.orgAll Rights Reserved. … The French government indicated an inquiry and possibly a trial would be held in France. Common sense dictated that ships under conditions of reduced visibility should proceed with infinite care and at greatly decreased speeds. Details relating to the disaster and the ship involved were later reconstructed. Two days later she steamed at full speed despite the fog she enveloped the Grand Bank. They have the original papers and will make copies of them and they will snail mail them to you. Has anyone actually attempted to salvage this wreck? [CDATA[ Discussions with the survivors revealed many strange stories concerning the collision of the two ships. At the time this sinking was infamous, because only 13% of the passengers survived, while 48% of the crew did. )showing the collision between the Cromartyshire and La Bourgogne. In 1897-8 she was fitted with quadruple expansion engines and her masts reduced to two. ... 1933 USA SS San Blas Paqueboat United Fruit UFC Cover To Boston MA. O SS La Bourgogne foi um navio de passageiros francês operado pela Compagnie Générale Transatlantique e construído pela Forges et Chantiers de la Méditerranée em La Seyne-sur-Mer. google_ad_height = 240; I would suggest e mailing the Sable Island Ship Wreck Society...I think that is what it is called but not sure. Karen Lagomarsino, 8. SS La Bourgogne was a French ocean liner. She was a 7,395 gross ton vessel, length 494.4ft x beam 52.2ft, two funnels, four masts, iron and steel construction, single screw and a speed of 17 knots. The wrestler's name from Turkey is Ismail Yousouf and yes he toured the US fighting everyone who would fight and beat them all! At this point, several rockets were observed from another vessel in the fog, after which all was quiet. Jeff Domenick, 31. Prof. Walter had published a book on Rousseau. Further lifting of the fog revealed a dreadful disaster with people foundering in the water. [1] In 1886 she set a new record for the fastest Atlantic crossing by a postal steamer. Reports circulated that the crew had refused to aid passengers in the water, to the point of stabbing them. Michael, 29. Although the Cromartyshire had her bow ripped off, she somehow remained afloat, but lost sight of the colliding vessel. "La Bourgogne"- by Pascal Kainic - A Titanic before the Titanic ? [CDATA[ Less than five years later the ship was on the. SS La Bourgogne was a French ocean liner, which sank in a collision July 1898, with the loss of 549 lives. I read about 20 died body from La bourgogne find on one of the Azores islan (Acores) after weeks of colussion. He was on his way to visit his sick sister who was a nun in France. google_ad_width = 120; The other three ships, La Champagne, La Bretagne and La Gascogne, were likewise named after old French provinces. I have been studying this wreck for years. I commend all of you on the research you're doing, and your interest in the stories of the Past ! I don't know much about it except what I red on this site. Spain to buy ship to track down sunken treasure, The collision and foundering of La Bourgogne, 1. SS LA BOURGOGNE was built in 1885 by Forges & Chantiers de la Mediteranee, La Seyne for the Compagnie Generale Transatlantique (French Line). She was killed when the ship dragged her under. You can read Mrs. La Casse's account of the sinking of the LaBourgogne in a book titled "Sinking of the Titanic,`Eyewitness Accounts"..pages 171-176, I'd like to correct a statement on my June 10th statement #23. My family's legend is that an uncle ?? Gina Bombolino, 25. My great-grandmother, Melvina Salza and her young daughter died on LaBourgogne shipwreck. Please contact me at broadwayhistory@msn.com. In his memoryI would be glad to send a copy to anyone interested. Captain Deloncle and his officers were powerless to control the disorderly elements. The passengers lost everything they had on board luggage, money and property; a diamonds merchant lost more than $10.000 and other rich passengers going to Paris for purchasing good or for pleasure. My great uncle Peter Barrett originally from Tyrone N.Ireland, died in this wreck. La Bretagne as she appeared c. 1890–1895 The Bourgogne was the ship that brought Mother Cabrini to New York in 1889 when she first came to America. 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